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- Some of the points in this thread makes no sense. First, yes, when something is in demand they go up, when there is limited supplies. Hearts are not limited. In fact, hearts were just as much in demand when I first joined when they were going for 150g, and during that time, there were less sellers yet they were still in the same demand. So, no, this has nothing to do with supply and demand. It's pure greed.
But we can't do anything about it, that is true. Obviously, gold sinks didn't work. And obviously, "not buying from greedy users," does nothing as well.
And what was mention before, that people will "stop donating," if there was a "price" on hearts, I highly doubt that. I wouldn't stop donating just because there was a price tag of gold on the hearts and I know no one else would - they just would not sell them as often - it would be back like how it use to. There are more sellers of hearts because they saw, "Oh wow, I can now get 200-300g per my one dollar spent," rather than just 150g for their dollar. People would not stop donating just because of such, the supply for hearts would just be less.
Most people sell their hearts now, I've notice the increase of heart sellers over the months.
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if someone has paid with their own hard earned money, they should be able to price them how ever the hell they want. if you don't like that particular price, wait around for another seller that is selling them cheaper.
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misfitbaby wrote:
Some of the points in this thread makes no sense. First, yes, when something is in demand they go up, when there is limited supplies. Hearts are not limited. In fact, hearts were just as much in demand when I first joined when they were going for 150g, and during that time, there were less sellers yet they were still in the same demand. So, no, this has nothing to do with supply and demand. It's pure greed.
are you saying that even though the userbase has grown (meaning more people who want hearts but don't/can't donate) the demand for hearts hasnt changed?
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choco wrote:Well, but if the prices go higher they do it so you don't make profit and so they still get to sell them at a reasonable offer and as items and hearts go up all the games and earnings will rise as well.
We aren't going to make gold any faster than we do now.
p.s. I agree with misfit as well.
Elementofshadow wrote:You got me curious, Aonani, so I checked in the sale back shop and DIs can be sold back for 400 gold, and CIs go for 200 gold. I did the math to find out how much the system values the full price of each of the items in gold, and then divided how many hearts they cost to find out what one heart would cost with gold according to the system and got 66.6 repeating, so about 67 gold per heart. Which is definitely far less than they go for.
At least, I think I did my math right.
Thanks for doing the math, but we also have to remember to add in the current market value of the item. That and hearts are real money and as much as I wish I could just generate money by talking about random things, you can't XD.
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Queen H wrote:She's saying that she believes that each user still wants the same number of hearts therefore demand hasn't changed. What may be confusing you is in thinking that the number of hearts the userbase wants to buy has risen but if you agree with her that this is proportionate to the rise in the number of users, then you must also decide if you think that the number of users who donate and sell hearts as a percentage of the userbase has fallen, stayed in step, or risen. If you agree that each user still wants the same number of hearts and you think that there is the same percentage of the userbase donating to sell hearts on the exchange, then macro demand and macro supply are the same and econ 101 says that means the price should stay the same.misfitbaby wrote:
Some of the points in this thread makes no sense. First, yes, when something is in demand they go up, when there is limited supplies. Hearts are not limited. In fact, hearts were just as much in demand when I first joined when they were going for 150g, and during that time, there were less sellers yet they were still in the same demand. So, no, this has nothing to do with supply and demand. It's pure greed.
are you saying that even though the userbase has grown (meaning more people who want hearts but don't/can't donate) the demand for hearts hasnt changed?
I don't believe in an inflation out of pure greed but us daily donors or us constant donors use our real hard earned money for these items/hearts. Therefore we should be able to sell it any way we want. I personally do not sell my hearts for more then 200g as to make it available for everyone. But I know when the time comes I may raise my price for hearts up in the future if I see fit. You're entitled to NOT buy from someone who inflates the prices of hearts. It's solely up to the buyer if they want 300g hearts and it's up to the seller if they want to price it as such. I donated $22 just now. If I didn't use the hearts on coins & spells I would've sold half my hearts. What price 200g. But if I was in desperate need of a good amount of gold by selling only a few hearts I'd price my hearts at 300g or whatever. I agree with both sides of the argument but no matter what you have to realize real money is being spent on pixels and if we want our money's worth we will get it. :3 That is all.
There is a growing thread pertaining to this issue where you can sign a sort of pledge to buy/sell hearts for no more than 200G each. All we can really do is search for the users on that pledge and hope they are selling hearts when we are looking to buy hearts, and ignore those who attempt to raise the price.
http://www.ernya.com/keep-hearts-at-200g-ea-65-t81483.html <-Link to thread
http://www.ernya.com/keep-hearts-at-200g-ea-65-t81483.html <-Link to thread
No, it's a user market. Ernya doesn't regulate it and I do believe she said she would never regulate it. Prices will eventually inflate, but there's a lot of people refusing to sell at higher prices right now. Maybe you should keep a note of who these users are and only buy from them.
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