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Healthy eating is possible if you take the time to do your homework, I don't know how many people know that though. I think too many in America think the only place you can buy food other than restaurants is super markets and they over inflate the hell out of prices. But I've saved a ton of money on food when I just started making everything myself and went to the farmers market to buy what's in season and we eat far healthier as well.

Actually when it comes to chronic conditions, America's probably the only major country that allows insurance companies to refuse to cover people with "pre-existing" conditions. You instead have to wait months or sometimes even years and hope you get Medicaid and Disability if you have the type of condition that prevents you entirely from working. If you can still work, I guess you're SOL.

I've heard that story entirely too many times though in attempting to save people's homes, that they or a family member are suffering from say cancer and they just can't afford to stop paying for their treatments. Granted in America people tend to rack up a lot of other debt, but medical debts depending on the condition are outrageous. Even worse because of the state of the economy no one's feeling generous enough to be charitable.

I think this is one of the few countries where doctors are in the top 10% as far as incomes go. Not that I believe that doctors should be dirt poor either but there has to be a balance somewhere if it's going to work out for the good of the people.
Post by This Zen is Not Zen » Tue Jan 31, 2012 1:07 pm

Words exist because of meaning. Once you've gotten the meaning, you can forget the words. Where can I find a man who has forgotten words so I can talk with him? ~Chuang Tzu

Absolutely, health should not be something that is only accessible to those with money. I agree that doctors should be paid, and well, because what they do is an honorable thing- but how many doctors are doctors for honorable reasons?

In the case of healthy eating not necessarily being expensive, I agree to an extent. But- and I'll use my city as an example- the only Farmet's Markets here are downtown, where the poorer communities are at the other end of the city. If you have a car, you have to pay a toll to get there, but you can get there in twenty minutes. If you don't, it's an hour and half by bus. For a single mother with babies, that's just not practical. For the people who live in that community with disabilities, vision impairment or are wheelchair bound, or the elderly who don't have someone to drive them or accompany them, the daunting task of crossing the city by public transportation alone for affordable produce can be downright terrifying.
Post by Savagery and Eloquence » Tue Jan 31, 2012 3:24 pm
If I ever get a load of money I want to start up a bunch of places that provide care to people. Good care, and I want the people who work there TO care. I don't feel it's right that people should have to go broke for medical treatment.

I think everyone should try to take care of everyone.
Post by Darling Harlequin » Tue Jan 31, 2012 8:12 pm

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Darling Harlequin wrote:

I think everyone should try to take care of everyone.


I could not agree with that statement more. Everybody needs help at one point in their lives, and everybody deserves to be helped when they need it.

I really like the idea of having in-city green spaces and urban farms. It's been a huge debate in my city lately ever since this woman fought the by-laws declaring no livestock in city limits so she could keep chickens to provide her family with fresh eggs. She lost (it was awful too, she already had the chickens and had to send them away) but it sparked a massive debate here that actually contributed to them planning out an area for some community-based urban farming, which I think is great.

I also believe that health and medical care, mental health particularly, is as much a social issue as poverty and education, and that it should be treated that way- not just as a money-making science applicable only to those with good jobs and money.
Post by Savagery and Eloquence » Wed Feb 01, 2012 3:00 am
That sort of thing would be great, people who live in cities should have access to farm products as well! I think farming should really really come back. All the processed things these days, it's just terrible. I'm guilty of eating it myself...but I would like to eat healthier.
Post by Darling Harlequin » Wed Feb 01, 2012 6:09 pm

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Hey guys. What a good idea to have a group like this on Ernya. I'm soon to be a parent myself, I am 5 months pregnant, and it'd be great to chat to other mums on here too.
Post by Degeneration » Thu Feb 02, 2012 10:00 pm

And I don't wanna live that way
reading into every word you say


Congratulations. : ) Five months along learned the gender or keeping it a secret?
Post by This Zen is Not Zen » Thu Feb 02, 2012 11:46 pm

Words exist because of meaning. Once you've gotten the meaning, you can forget the words. Where can I find a man who has forgotten words so I can talk with him? ~Chuang Tzu

Congratulations! And welcome to the thread! It's always good to have support! I just read your thread about your mother in law and she sounds like a real piece of work. x_x

Hopefully you can move soon and then you won't have to deal with it!

Lateralus I love your avi!
Post by Darling Harlequin » Thu Feb 02, 2012 11:50 pm

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Thank you, heh, although I need to change it. I had it on the previous outfit for a few days just to break up having this one this way for months. : P

Yeah with your mother-in-law I'm a fan of Llewelyn's advice there.
Post by This Zen is Not Zen » Fri Feb 03, 2012 1:04 am

Words exist because of meaning. Once you've gotten the meaning, you can forget the words. Where can I find a man who has forgotten words so I can talk with him? ~Chuang Tzu

lateralus:
Thanks very much. I have my scan next Wednesday so hopefully we will learn the gender then. But me and my partner are going to keep it between ourselves, I think.

Darling:
Thanks, it's nice to be here. xD
She is on occasion, lol. I guess we all have those issues though? I can't wait to move. :D
Post by Degeneration » Fri Feb 03, 2012 12:36 pm

And I don't wanna live that way
reading into every word you say


My husband wanted to keep the first one a surprise and I wanted to know. We found out ahead of time. If we have another we'll be surprised! That way we both get what we want! He knew our daughter was a girl all along though.
Post by Darling Harlequin » Fri Feb 03, 2012 6:01 pm

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Reviving the thread! (Sorry if I shouldn't have, but it seemed weird to post a new thread to ask this question when I knew this one was kicking around on the second page)

So, a lot of you know, we're moving on Saturday and since due to miscommunication and other factors, we don't have a place to live so we'll be camping at my mom's house for a period of up to several weeks (please god don't let it take that long).

Here's the thing: My 2-year-old is really, really attached to his gramma. Every day he asks if he can go visit her, call her on the phone, etc. Seeing her completely makes his day, she's his favourite person in the world. The two of them have this bond that I can't fully explain- it's very beautiful and very strong.

I'm worried about us living there for that reason. If he throws tantrums now when she leaves after a visit, what is it going to do to him if we're living there and then move out? He's going to go through some serious seperation issues, and I know this ahead of time, I'm just not sure how to approach it. We haven't told him yet we'll be living there for a little while, because on the off chance they find a place for us today (not likely), it would break his heart if that turned out not to be true.

So I'm just wondering if anyone has dealt with their child going through seperation issues pertaining to someone who no longer lives with them/sees them on a daily basis (if anyone's split with the other parent, for example) and how you helped the little stinker get through it without developing a fear of abandonment or trust issues or anything like that.
Post by Savagery and Eloquence » Fri Mar 30, 2012 11:15 am
Hmmmm, maybe once you move out of there go over and visit a lot so that he knows he will still see his gramma a lot? Or maybe it'd be even better to invite her to your home a lot so he knows he will see her there sometimes too?

We used to live with my husbands mom and then she moved in with her daughter and son in law when her health issues got worse and we moved across the country. Alura might still be a bit young for that to fully impact her. Donnie asked her the other day though if she remembered her grandma and she blew a raspberry, which she and grandma always used to do when she would go and see her in her room.

Maybe you can even have her give him a gift of some kind that he can have with him at the new house?
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The gift is a great idea, DH. We already do a "book swap" where he has a set of books at each house, and we "trade in" every once in a while so he has familiar things at both places, and we will be doing a lot of visiting (my mom's a really active part in our lives). So he'll still get to see her, just not all day, every day. I'm hoping the excitement of the new house, when we get it, will sort of gloss over the transition a bit, but I'm thinking of having Mom over during the day for the first few days, to help him transition and keep them occupied while I unpack!
Post by Savagery and Eloquence » Fri Mar 30, 2012 5:42 pm
I hope it works! We're going to be moving back to Tulsa at some point. It's far from Vermont and Alura won't get to see Nana and Pop pop everyday anymore. I am not sure what she will think of it...
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