View topic - No: you're just racist.

"I am opposed to race-mixing, but I do not hate non-white people."

Seeing that there is/are no valid and educated reason(s) for you to be opposed to race-mixing, I'd like to say you're as racist as they come. I saw this as a description on a Youtube video somebody made, and it nearly sickens me how some(white) people think that adding a disclaimer such as "I do not hate non-white people but..." makes them seem any less offensive/racist than they really are.

And, what's even worst than that, is non-whites that allow themselves to be discriminated against just for the simple fact that they want to fit in. It's amazing and angering that some people are so desperate to be liked that they'd lower themselves to that level. What are your opinions/feelings on racism?
Post by AHLICE » Wed Feb 08, 2012 9:40 pm

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Racism is obviously messed up. Judging by a person's outward appearance & what not is horrible, along with the stereotyping & stuff. "Race-mixing?" Being mixed with stuff is the best!
I honestly love all people. People are people, and share the same blood & bones.
As for joking around between friends & classmates, yeah.. I do find some things to be funny. But I'm not a big fan of the jokes either since people can easily go overboard.. And deep down it's just unhealthy anyway, even if people claim to be joking around.

I am sometimes guilty of feeling terrible due to having a particular trait/race in my blood though (I think I worded that correctly), which I see unappealing in myself.. But it's really just a dumb self issue.
Post by Chunnbay » Wed Feb 08, 2012 10:22 pm

1 - Haters gonna hate.
2 - All people die eventually.
3 - Everybody's a little bit racist.

But I agree, racism is ridiculous. If we ever see a world where hate and prejudice have been eradicated, then I will be the happiest geek in the universe.
Post by Shepardess » Wed Feb 08, 2012 10:36 pm
The Dream Shepardess wrote:1 - Haters gonna hate.
2 - All people die eventually.
3 - Everybody's a little bit racist.

But I agree, racism is ridiculous. If we ever see a world where hate and prejudice have been eradicated, then I will be the happiest geek in the universe.

1- Who's "hating" on who?
2- And that makes it all right for this (and the following) generation to live in a world like this?
3- Sure, but still not an excuse for ignorance.

And racism sure is ridiculous. If you want to feel better than someone else, find a healthier way to do it or shut up.
Post by AHLICE » Wed Feb 08, 2012 10:45 pm

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whenever somebody feels the need to start something of with some variation of "I'm not racist, but..." they're absolutely being racist
it's the same when people say stuff like "I'm not against gays, but marriage is between a man and a woman" or "I'm not sexist, but a woman's main job should be at home"
it's really sad that people still think like this, and then they have the gall to try and pretend like they aren't a bigoted piece o' crap
Post by venomothballs » Wed Feb 08, 2012 11:14 pm



There are a lot of people who have that kind of old-fashioned sentiment, and it certainly isn't just white people. And no, it really doesn't mean they have anything against people of other races--just that they think individuals of each race should only pair up with other members of that race. Where it starts to get racist is when that view is extended into a resentment of mixed-race individuals or a generalization about certain races as a whole being more prone to participate in such a behavior. While I may find it ignorant to hold such views without legitimate reasons, my idea of a legitimate reason is clearly different from theirs and I can't see it as being that big of a deal for them to think that way as long as they aren't hurting anyone as a result. Having an opinion and being rude about it are two different things.
Post by Disgusting » Wed Feb 08, 2012 11:17 pm
Nightmare Boy wrote:There are a lot of people who have that kind of old-fashioned sentiment, and it certainly isn't just white people. And no, it really doesn't mean they have anything against people of other races--just that they think individuals of each race should only pair up with other members of that race. Where it starts to get racist is when that view is extended into a resentment of mixed-race individuals or a generalization about certain races as a whole being more prone to participate in such a behavior. While I may find it ignorant to hold such views without legitimate reasons, my idea of a legitimate reason is clearly different from theirs and I can't see it as being that big of a deal for them to think that way as long as they aren't hurting anyone as a result. Having an opinion and being rude about it are two different things.
calling it an "old-fashioned sentiment" trivializes the issue and makes it seem softer than it is
you're right, it's not just white people who think badly of mixed-race couples
that doesn't make it any less wrong
and who do you think started that way of thinking in the first place?
of course some PoC are going to think that way, because historically, white people have told them that that's the """correct""" way
you say it's only racism if they are making generalizations about other races
but that's exactly what they're doing
besides that, you're far over simplifying racism
racism is not just "resenting people of other colors"
and there are no, absolutely no legitimate reasons to believe in racial purity (white supremacy) that aren't inherently racist
it is a big deal that people think that way, they are making undeserving people feel like shit just because the person they fell in love with happened to have different physical characteristics, namely skin tone
that's like saying it's okay to be one of those "God Hates Fags" kind of people because it's just words right? words don't hurt, right?
you can have an opinion, and that opinion may very well be a bigoted one
Post by venomothballs » Wed Feb 08, 2012 11:46 pm



venomothballs wrote:
calling it an "old-fashioned sentiment" trivializes the issue and makes it seem softer than it is
you're right, it's not just white people who think badly of mixed-race couples
that doesn't make it any less wrong
and who do you think started that way of thinking in the first place?
of course some PoC are going to think that way, because historically, white people have told them that that's the """correct""" way
you say it's only racism if they are making generalizations about other races
but that's exactly what they're doing
besides that, you're far over simplifying racism
racism is not just "resenting people of other colors"
and there are no, absolutely no legitimate reasons to believe in racial purity (white supremacy) that aren't inherently racist
it is a big deal that people think that way, they are making undeserving people feel like shit just because the person they fell in love with happened to have different physical characteristics, namely skin tone
that's like saying it's okay to be one of those "God Hates Fags" kind of people because it's just words right? words don't hurt, right?
you can have an opinion, and that opinion may very well be a bigoted one

White people didn't invent the concept of "racial purity"--but either way, whether or not any individual race "started it" is completely irrelevant. And trying to pin the issue on whites when it's existed among people of all races for as long as people have been around seems pretty racist in itself. Racial purity and white supremacy aren't synonymous, especially in the current context.
Like I said, the idea of not mixing races is nothing new and doesn't equal having something against people of other races or even against mixed-race individuals. In fact, it doesn't necessarily mean that a person will take issue with mixed-race couples on an individual level--same as thinking homosexuality is wrong doesn't equal having a problem with homosexual people. It really isn't as huge a deal as it's being made out to be, and paying attention to the differences in certain types of thinking is pretty important. When you start generalizing everyone with different views, you wind up blowing things out of proportion and making people out to be something they're not. That isn't to say that there aren't plenty of people out there who believe races shouldn't mix and also have a lot of negative attitudes toward other races, but you can't jump to that kind of conclusion without fully knowing the person's views.
When I say that having an opinion and being rude about it are two different things, I mean exactly that. Being rude about an opinion would mean expressing it in a way that would harm/upset another person. Simply holding a view and not using it to insult another individual or as an excuse for infringing on his rights in some way should not be an issue. That doesn't mean that people shouldn't be educated about things, but there is a big difference between being stuck on a particular belief and shoving it into other people's faces.
Whether we like it or not, there will always be someone out there who disagrees with us--be it for what we do, what we like, or just who and what we are. Knowing that those people are out there is just a part of life and I am not going to be miserable all the time just because such people exist. As long as they aren't bothering me, I'm not going to care.
Post by Disgusting » Thu Feb 09, 2012 12:59 am
Nightmare Boy wrote:
White people didn't invent the concept of "racial purity"--but either way, whether or not any individual race "started it" is completely irrelevant. And trying to pin the issue on whites when it's existed among people of all races for as long as people have been around seems pretty racist in itself. Racial purity and white supremacy aren't synonymous, especially in the current context.
Like I said, the idea of not mixing races is nothing new and doesn't equal having something against people of other races or even against mixed-race individuals. In fact, it doesn't necessarily mean that a person will take issue with mixed-race couples on an individual level--same as thinking homosexuality is wrong doesn't equal having a problem with homosexual people. It really isn't as huge a deal as it's being made out to be, and paying attention to the differences in certain types of thinking is pretty important. When you start generalizing everyone with different views, you wind up blowing things out of proportion and making people out to be something they're not. That isn't to say that there aren't plenty of people out there who believe races shouldn't mix and also have a lot of negative attitudes toward other races, but you can't jump to that kind of conclusion without fully knowing the person's views.
When I say that having an opinion and being rude about it are two different things, I mean exactly that. Being rude about an opinion would mean expressing it in a way that would harm/upset another person. Simply holding a view and not using it to insult another individual or as an excuse for infringing on his rights in some way should not be an issue. That doesn't mean that people shouldn't be educated about things, but there is a big difference between being stuck on a particular belief and shoving it into other people's faces.
Whether we like it or not, there will always be someone out there who disagrees with us--be it for what we do, what we like, or just who and what we are. Knowing that those people are out there is just a part of life and I am not going to be miserable all the time just because such people exist. As long as they aren't bothering me, I'm not going to care.

i could tear this entire thing apart but i'm not going to because like you said, you don't care
Post by venomothballs » Thu Feb 09, 2012 1:09 am



From a personal point of view, not sure if race mixing is purely racism but another form of discrimination since they might not care for races, just the racial purity of every race, but you get that for nationalities, ethnicity, religion and so on from every part of the world.

I never got the 'not trying to be offensive' or 'no trying to be racist' thing either. It doesn't make it any less of either of those, though I've seen people with difficulty trying to get their point across and people easily interpret those views wrongly and overreact, but that's the minority.

Racism is something I face everyday coming from a ridiculously multicultural household and society. No matter where I go, I get branded for something, and it's usually of the worst things of the world from Nazi to terrorist to gold digger. I'm also in a mixed race and religion (Muslim|Christian) relationship to top it off. I've had more positive experience with those who are naive and ignorant of other races and don't blame them for their negative views and mistakes or see them as racist. The ones are are from multicultural places are different however. Perhaps their experiences are justified, but more than often their views are not.

I also find that there's a distinction between soft generalisation and racism. I think it's important to assume certain things like an Arab or Indonesian is a Muslim upon meeting them to avoid infringing on culturally/religiously sensitive things. But to react and view them negatively or treat them better for that reason alone, whether it's true or not, starts to cross the line.
Post by Thalassaemia » Thu Feb 09, 2012 4:06 am


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If race-mixing was illegal, I wouldn't exist. ):

So yea, I'm definitely pro-mixing. :p
I do think that even though a person may not necessarily be racist, everyone at least stereotypes a bit. I mean it's hard not to - the stereotypes had to have started from something.
Post by тacïт » Thu Feb 09, 2012 4:28 am
I'm against racism completely, but recently, two of my classmates were arguing about what racism is. Is it something where "I hate you because you're not white" or is it more like "That guy has darker skin! So he's certainly African." those were the two sides. It's been brought to my attention at that point that I am not so sure myself of which is racism. I've noticed a lot of people argue about what racism exactly is. Either way though, I agree, racism isn't right at all, and just saying something like "Just because I made this video doesn't mean I am against Caucasians, Asians, or Blacks" certainly doesn't make it non-offensive. I don't think it'll ever be possible to live a world without racism. People are too entitled to their opinions when it comes to things like this. My friend's step dad always made fun of her skin color. He called her things like buckwheat. I got so pissed off that I was about to kick him while he was making fun of her, but I couldn't because he was too tall. OTL At times like those, I absolutely hated the fact that I was a kid and rather tiny.
Post by C i e l » Fri Feb 10, 2012 12:19 am
I'm not racist, but I wouldn't have sex with someone who isn't white.
I don't find any other races attractive sexually.
If someone else decides to, meh, don't care. Mix it up all you want. ;D
Post by decomposer » Fri Feb 10, 2012 2:02 am



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In the end we will be one.
In a trail of fire I'll burn before you bury me,
Set your sights for the sun.


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To me, there is only one human race.
"Race-mixing" would be like, mixing a bug and a human. Which is impossible and unnatural.

I'm multiracial, and I guess that makes me a little biased. But, we are all human. Regardless of skintone, hair texture, language, culture or creed.
Post by Rawiyah » Fri Feb 10, 2012 3:17 am

to be honest.. i dont believe in the whole "racist" thing anyway.. EVERYONE IS RACIST.. you can't deny it, everyone has had "those" thoughts and wanted to say something, saying you havn't means your a liar or you havnt had it YET(you will). i believe its down the way your brought up, because older people were brought up in the days when "black people" weren't allowed in certain places.. etc etc! its no ones fault!
Post by AcidDrop » Sat Feb 11, 2012 3:47 am

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