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I think that a decent guy would realize that a drunk girl, (depending on how drunk she is) may not be in her right mind and can't give proper consent to sex. But, I don't think a girl should purposely get intoxicated, have sex, and then turn around and call it rape, especially if she consented to it. That's unfair to the guy.
By this definition have you been raped?
Nope. I avoid any sexual situations while drinking. And I've never been so drunk that I couldn't comprehend what my tongue was saying.
By this definiiton have you raped someone?
Nope.
By this definition have you been raped?
Nope. I avoid any sexual situations while drinking. And I've never been so drunk that I couldn't comprehend what my tongue was saying.
By this definiiton have you raped someone?
Nope.
If being drunk while having sex is rape, then yes, I have been raped. But, I have also had the misfortune of experiencing the real thing and they are nowhere near the same thing. Yes, if she is too drunk to really know what's going on, then it's rape, but if she is able to consent and perform, then no it's not rape and people who claim rape afterwards are asshole.
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No, I don't agree with it. People get falsely accused of rape all the time because they can use the "drunk" card. It's mainly men that get falsely accused, too.
It's so sad that so many people won't even look at this from the other side of the fence.
It's different if the person is so drunk to the point they've passed out, now yes that is rape. But, in these cases a person can be buzzed, make a mistake and proclaim rape.
It's so sad that so many people won't even look at this from the other side of the fence.
It's different if the person is so drunk to the point they've passed out, now yes that is rape. But, in these cases a person can be buzzed, make a mistake and proclaim rape.
I agree with it 100% because if they can't make a decsion like that for them selfs or if it impares the jugement it is rape palin and simple. I have never done it and it has never happend to me and i have never had sex. I became and apostolic penacostle and so now all of it is against my religion and so is sex before marige
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I think being drunk is stupid to begin with
If a person is intoxicated to the point they can't even handle a yes or no question, they shouldn't get drunk. Especially if you're going to a party, knowing that there will be a lot of drunk people around with you.
If a person is intoxicated to the point they can't even handle a yes or no question, they shouldn't get drunk. Especially if you're going to a party, knowing that there will be a lot of drunk people around with you.
Basically, this is how I feel about it:
Taking advantage of a drunk girl and saying she "consented" because she didn't say no is rape.
A lack of "no" does not make it a "yes". A "yes" is consent, pretty much. :/
But I agree that getting drunk to that point is pretty silly, people still do it, and that's just how it is. But the people who take advantage of a girl or guy because they're drunk pisses me off even more.
Taking advantage of a drunk girl and saying she "consented" because she didn't say no is rape.
A lack of "no" does not make it a "yes". A "yes" is consent, pretty much. :/
But I agree that getting drunk to that point is pretty silly, people still do it, and that's just how it is. But the people who take advantage of a girl or guy because they're drunk pisses me off even more.
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In my opinion, if nobody said no, if there was some form of obvious consent, if there was no harmful or violent treatment during the act and if there is no clear victim or nobody feels like a victim at the end, it's not rape.
But at the same time, there will be exceptions.
For example. If some young teen girl went out and got drunk and slept with a guy, it would be her own fault. It would also be his, mind, unless she claimed sobriety and lied about her age. I'm not saying she deserved it, but I am blaming her.
You can't always say "they had sex with a drunk person, they're a rapist", because, for one thing, they may not know if the other person was drunk. I know I couldn't tell unless I knew them or they were blatently drunk, because my sense of smell is so bad I wouldn't smell the alcohol.
In the end, though, no matter what happened - if there's no victim, there's no rape.
But at the same time, there will be exceptions.
For example. If some young teen girl went out and got drunk and slept with a guy, it would be her own fault. It would also be his, mind, unless she claimed sobriety and lied about her age. I'm not saying she deserved it, but I am blaming her.
You can't always say "they had sex with a drunk person, they're a rapist", because, for one thing, they may not know if the other person was drunk. I know I couldn't tell unless I knew them or they were blatently drunk, because my sense of smell is so bad I wouldn't smell the alcohol.
In the end, though, no matter what happened - if there's no victim, there's no rape.
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I think it depends on how drunk you were. Like there should be a BAC limit to consent. The statue of limitations on non violent rape due to drinking needs to be very low as well. Like a few days at most. That way someone can't come around a few months later and cry rape just to get back at someone.
I'm not sure if anyone touched on this subject but
What if BOTH parties are intoxicated? Can the both claimed to have been raped? How would that sort of case hold up in court? I think they'd be laughed at personally.
Also, I feel if a person is drinking in public they should know how much they can withstand. Why would a person put themselves in a situation that would make them vulnerable? You should be alert at all times of your surroundings. You know never know what's going to happen at any given time.
I personally don't believe in alcohol and feel it is one of the must abused substances. There are only bad things that come from drinking.
What if BOTH parties are intoxicated? Can the both claimed to have been raped? How would that sort of case hold up in court? I think they'd be laughed at personally.
Also, I feel if a person is drinking in public they should know how much they can withstand. Why would a person put themselves in a situation that would make them vulnerable? You should be alert at all times of your surroundings. You know never know what's going to happen at any given time.
I personally don't believe in alcohol and feel it is one of the must abused substances. There are only bad things that come from drinking.
I think that this is a pretty decent definition, but not every woman is drunk when it occurs, the high rate of rape (in the US) actually has to do with your gun control laws and weapon laws as well, more use of weapons means more crime which also begets more violence, even more so against woman. Violence against woman elevates in places with more crime/poor gun control. Also, it happens more in suburban areas where there are higher concentrations of people.
Also, if a woman/man is even slightly drunk it is considered rape because they are judged as being unable to make a good decision. Saying "no" isn't the only denial of consent. Having sex with someone who is more sober then you qualifies too.
I have, it took extensive therapy for me to get over it, I was taken advantage of by my 'friend' at a party when I younger, I barely remember it. I remember the second time it happened though, I was completely sober and I was very violently raped behind the junior high near my grandparents.
No, by the definition I have not and I would never, it's painful and terrifying.
Also, if a woman/man is even slightly drunk it is considered rape because they are judged as being unable to make a good decision. Saying "no" isn't the only denial of consent. Having sex with someone who is more sober then you qualifies too.
I have, it took extensive therapy for me to get over it, I was taken advantage of by my 'friend' at a party when I younger, I barely remember it. I remember the second time it happened though, I was completely sober and I was very violently raped behind the junior high near my grandparents.
No, by the definition I have not and I would never, it's painful and terrifying.
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I think it depends on how you feel when you sobered up. I personally don't think it is rape unless you had something put int your drink and or if the person is just intoxicated as you are.
By this definition, I have been raped a handful of times.
Only once did I look back sobered up and think, Huh... I probably shouldn't have done that.
I feel like it's a little different in my situation because it's with the same guy, I don't have random guys or a group of guys grabbing at me when I drink ^ ^".
Only once did I look back sobered up and think, Huh... I probably shouldn't have done that.
I feel like it's a little different in my situation because it's with the same guy, I don't have random guys or a group of guys grabbing at me when I drink ^ ^".
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Depends on the person and situation.
As many have touched on it.
Personally, its easy to talk someone into something. If you have been drinking, again depending on the person, your ability to make rationale decisions are lowered.
That's why some drink and drive. They know its wrong, but a few drinks and they think they are fine.
But, one shouldn't put themselves in a situation that may happen. Don't go out drinking or even drink privately with someone if you don't trust those around you.
Would be easy to say then, Oh we are good friends, we had a few drinks and she didn't say no. she seemed into it. So it must of been okay, right? *shakes head*
As many have touched on it.
Personally, its easy to talk someone into something. If you have been drinking, again depending on the person, your ability to make rationale decisions are lowered.
That's why some drink and drive. They know its wrong, but a few drinks and they think they are fine.
But, one shouldn't put themselves in a situation that may happen. Don't go out drinking or even drink privately with someone if you don't trust those around you.
Would be easy to say then, Oh we are good friends, we had a few drinks and she didn't say no. she seemed into it. So it must of been okay, right? *shakes head*
Ebbe wrote:In my oppinion it isn't rape until someone in the situation says "no" and the other person doesn't stop (ofcourse assuming that the person is awake to be able to say "no").
The only problem is that when people are drunk their brain works in an abnormal way and they may not know what they're saying "yes" to, as in some cases they might even be allucinating.
I guess every case is a case.
I guess every case is a case.
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